Click Here Google _______________________________ Search (_) Web (_) www.howardforums.com Pages: 1 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ It's Fur Without Fear on New York Fashion Runways (Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images) ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: wolwol what's up with PETA?! they couldn't made up their mind or what?! so, this year theme, no to leather and yes to fur?! dumb Quote: NEW YORK (Reuters) - Fur is back and prominently displayed by top designers this week on New York's fashion runways, with nary a peep of protest. Not so long ago, a woman in fur might fear a hail of insults and a pail of paint getting lobbed her way, while the designer would face a pelting of tomatoes. But clever marketing, hip-hop culture and the perpetual lure of luxury are bringing fur out of the closet, experts say. Sales are up and the average age of buyers is down. U.S. sales among traditional fur retailers hit a record $1.8 billion in the 2003 season, a 7.5 percent increase over the previous year, according to the Fur Information Council of America. Ten years ago, fur sales were about $1.1 billion. More than half the customers are under age 44, the council said. Innovations making fur more versatile -- it's often sheared, dyed or knitted -- have been key, said Keith Kaplan, the council's executive director. "Designers have discovered the creativity and adaptability of fur," he said. "It can be used now as any other fabric." A recent survey by Women's Wear Daily showed three-quarters of 200 high-end specialty stores carry fur, and most of the remaining stores planned to add it. Buying fur like never before are men and younger consumers, particularly in the hip-hop world, experts say. "People are taking 'bling' to the next level," said fashion analyst Irma Zandl. "It's one thing to throw red paint on (Vogue editor) Anna Wintour, and quite another to throw it on P Diddy and J Lo." PETA CHANGES Anti-fur activists insist the battle is far from over. A move by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals to stage its own fashion shows in New York rather than disrupt others shows how the anti-fur perspective has been accepted by the mainstream, said spokeswoman Lisa Franzetta. Dyeing, shearing and knitting fur are attempts by the industry to distance itself from its product, she said. "A lot of the real fur we're seeing these days is being styled so that it looks fake," she said. "It's a very deliberate attempt on behalf of the fur industry to disassociate the fur from the animal." More than two years have passed since PETA grabbed headlines with a protest at a Victoria's Secret show. This week, it plans a protest at the show of fur designer J. Mendel. It also unveiled an ad campaign on Monday with former basketball star Dennis Rodman, featuring the heavily tattooed celebrity posing naked, with the slogan "Think Ink, Not Mink." Fur's role as a status symbol is hard to shake, and its absence may have made the heart grow fonder, said Ben Gomes of fashion and trend information company OPR. "Tell me I can't have something, and I want it," he said. Observers also say other issues such as war may have overshadowed concern over animal rights in recent years. Marketing fur to women, like the successful "right hand diamond" campaign, may account for a surge in popularity as women spend their own money on luxury items, said Paco Underhill, head of market research company Envirosell. "If a guy can spend it on hunting and fishing equipment, why can't you spend it on fur? Why should your expenditure be any less politically correct than his?" Underhill asked. Designers showing this week who use fur include fashion fixtures such as Carolina Herrera, Michael Kors and Oscar de la Renta as well as young designer Alice Roi, who will be using fur in a collection for the first time. Nearly 400 designers worldwide use fur in some form in their collections, compared with 42 a decade ago, said Kaplan. yahoo ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: rip Fur is nice and warm in the winter but rip is no pimp ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: fijbert u'll offend snafu he is PETA ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: rip PETA on snafu ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: GotRice People Eating Tasty Animals? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: wolwol PETA should nominate snafu as president ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: wolwol Quote: Originally posted by GotRice People Eating Tasty Animals? shsssttt! that's the actual meaning of it...now you blew it ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: snafu What do my personal views have to do with a large conglomerate corporation? Have I ever even mentioned anything relating to this topic? You don't see me going off on all of you in food, meat etc threads, do you? sheeesh ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: wolwol Quote: Originally posted by snafu What do my personal views have to do with a large conglomerate corporation? am kidding ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: fijbert EAT MEAT!! EAT!! ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: red120% this is a great return trend~ fur looks wonderful when done properly.. and in the right amounts thumbs up from me! ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: eimajuno Quote: Originally posted by GotRice People Eating Tasty Animals? Yum ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: angel_wing0 Quote: Originally posted by GotRice People Eating Tasty Animals? lol...the REAL PETA will kill u for that ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: wolwol Quote: Originally posted by angel_wing0 lol...the REAL PETA will kill u for that most likely he will be stuffed with veggies ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: angel_wing0 Quote: Originally posted by wolwol most likely he will be stuffed with veggies isnt that nice? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: snafu A series of tests by a University of Arizona microbiologist discovered that there is far more fecal material in the average American kitchen sink than on the average American toilet seat. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Frosty Vibe Here's an idea... Would it be possible to "farm" animals like sables ? That way we'd have unlimited supply of various furs and minks. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: B0000rt Quote: Originally posted by snafu A series of tests by a University of Arizona microbiologist discovered that there is far more fecal material in the average American kitchen sink than on the average American toilet seat. So where do you wash your vegetables? Why would there be fecal matter on a toliet seat? Shrimp poop is fecal matter too? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ [__utm.gif] vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. vB Easy Archive Final ©2000 - 2006 - Created by Stefan "Xenon" Kaeser